From hildalirsch at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 02:44:23 2017 From: hildalirsch at gmail.com (Richard Hills) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:44:23 +1100 Subject: [BLML] Indexing, The Art of Message-ID: The penultimate draft of the 2017 Laws has been released to the NBOs for comments. In order for me to update my 2007 Index to suit the 2017 Lawbook, I have also been given access to the penultimate draft. However, my updating task will not be too difficult. This is because of the excellent job performed by the prior 2007 Drafting Committee (special congratulations to the then Coordinator, Grattan Endicott). Many 2007 Laws were so well constructed that the 2017 Drafting Committee could not conceive of any improvement, so left them completely unchanged. Best wishes, Richard Hills -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://lists.rtflb.org/pipermail/blml/attachments/20170125/d165d0b6/attachment.html From zecurado at gmail.com Wed Jan 25 10:36:37 2017 From: zecurado at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Jos=C3=A9_J=C3=BAlio_Curado?=) Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 09:36:37 +0000 Subject: [BLML] ACBL LC soliciting comments on the 2017 Draft Laws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Adam! I tried to join but I kept receiving a message stating an error had occurred... I will try again later. Best Regards Jose Curado On 25 January 2017 at 07:20, Adam Wildavsky wrote: > The WBF Laws Committee has prepared a draft of the 2017 Laws of Duplicate > Bridge and sent copies to the world's NBOs. The ACBL Laws Commission is > soliciting comments on the draft from ACBL members and interested others. > We will pass those we consider worth further thought to the WBF LC. > > To obtain access to the draft laws and to submit comments please visit > this page and request admission to the Yahoo group formed for this purpose: > > https://groups.yahoo.com/bridge-laws-2017 > > Alternatively, you can send a message to: > > bridge-laws-2017-subscribe at yahoogroups.com > > _______________________________________________ > Blml mailing list > Blml at rtflb.org > http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.rtflb.org/pipermail/blml/attachments/20170125/e23bf40f/attachment.html From bmeadows666 at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 11:52:30 2017 From: bmeadows666 at gmail.com (brian) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 05:52:30 -0500 Subject: [BLML] Looking for some scoring help Message-ID: <58e1586f-c692-ff2b-da1d-98bde854d138@gmail.com> Given how quiet this list has been of late, I hope you'll all forgive me a borderline off-topic post, but if what I'm trying to research exists, I'm absolutely sure that someone on this list will know about it! I think the chances are remote in the extreme, but just about worth the e-mail. I know nothing about it given that it's almost 20 years since I last played offline bridge. Some background: I'm a mentor for a version of Precision that's been taught on Bridge Base Online for a number of years now. Recently a few of us decided to get together and document the system in some print-on-demand books which are available via Amazon. You can imagine that we were a bit surprised to get a mentoring request from the mother of a guy who's currently doing time in low-security Federal prison! Anyway, I said I'd take him on, and it's his request for information that I'm passing on. The rules in prison are that they are not allowed computers above a simple calculator, the only thing they have access to is a closed e-mail system through which they can exchange simple e-mails with the outside world. At the moment they are scoring the prison duplicates the old-fashioned way, with pen and paper. Is anyone aware of any aid to scoring duplicates which CANNOT (Bureau of Prisons rules!) be networkable or capable of being programmed in any other way? I've told them that I think it highly unlikely, that I expect scoring programs to run on a computer are many and varied, but they're not allowed that. It has to be *dedicated* hardware, and of course still commercially available. Thanks for any info... but I'm not holding my breath! :( Brian. From gordonr60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 12:14:20 2017 From: gordonr60 at gmail.com (gordonr60 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:14:20 +0000 Subject: [BLML] Looking for some scoring help In-Reply-To: <58e1586f-c692-ff2b-da1d-98bde854d138@gmail.com> References: <58e1586f-c692-ff2b-da1d-98bde854d138@gmail.com> Message-ID: <58907192.0a081c0a.f5bd4.4f0c@mx.google.com> I doubt there is anything like that because I don?t think there ever was in the past. However, I wonder what are the issues they have with scoring by hand, and maybe they could be helped with advice or information? Unless they have large games, which I doubt, scoring by hand ought to be easy enough and provide additional mental stimulation in what must be a very boring routine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: brian Sent: 31 January 2017 11:00 To: blml at rtflb.org Subject: [BLML] Looking for some scoring help Given how quiet this list has been of late, I hope you'll all forgive me a borderline off-topic post, but if what I'm trying to research exists, I'm absolutely sure that someone on this list will know about it! I think the chances are remote in the extreme, but just about worth the e-mail. I know nothing about it given that it's almost 20 years since I last played offline bridge. Some background: I'm a mentor for a version of Precision that's been taught on Bridge Base Online for a number of years now. Recently a few of us decided to get together and document the system in some print-on-demand books which are available via Amazon. You can imagine that we were a bit surprised to get a mentoring request from the mother of a guy who's currently doing time in low-security Federal prison! Anyway, I said I'd take him on, and it's his request for information that I'm passing on. The rules in prison are that they are not allowed computers above a simple calculator, the only thing they have access to is a closed e-mail system through which they can exchange simple e-mails with the outside world. At the moment they are scoring the prison duplicates the old-fashioned way, with pen and paper. Is anyone aware of any aid to scoring duplicates which CANNOT (Bureau of Prisons rules!) be networkable or capable of being programmed in any other way? I've told them that I think it highly unlikely, that I expect scoring programs to run on a computer are many and varied, but they're not allowed that. It has to be *dedicated* hardware, and of course still commercially available. Thanks for any info... but I'm not holding my breath! :( Brian. _______________________________________________ Blml mailing list Blml at rtflb.org http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.rtflb.org/pipermail/blml/attachments/20170131/5d045e34/attachment.html From bmeadows666 at gmail.com Tue Jan 31 12:26:59 2017 From: bmeadows666 at gmail.com (brian) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:26:59 -0500 Subject: [BLML] Looking for some scoring help In-Reply-To: <58907192.0a081c0a.f5bd4.4f0c@mx.google.com> References: <58e1586f-c692-ff2b-da1d-98bde854d138@gmail.com> <58907192.0a081c0a.f5bd4.4f0c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <7e319ef4-86da-ef8e-349e-a9e47611323f@gmail.com> On 01/31/2017 06:14 AM, gordonr60 at gmail.com wrote: > I doubt there is anything like that because I don?t think there ever > was in the past. However, I wonder what are the issues they have with > scoring by hand, and maybe they could be helped with advice or > information? Unless they have large games, which I doubt, scoring by > hand ought to be easy enough and provide additional mental stimulation > in what must be a very boring routine. > I've told them that I've scored more than enough duplicates by hand in the past that I can probably help them, Gordon, but they still wanted to ask about automated scoring, so I thought it easier to post the message than to try to talk them out of it. As I said, I thought it an extremely remote chance that any such thing existed, but I've been out of offline bridge for so long that I thought it was just possible. Brian. From ken.johnston at btinternet.com Tue Jan 31 12:54:43 2017 From: ken.johnston at btinternet.com (Ken Johnston) Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:54:43 +0000 Subject: [BLML] Looking for some scoring help In-Reply-To: <58907192.0a081c0a.f5bd4.4f0c@mx.google.com> References: <58e1586f-c692-ff2b-da1d-98bde854d138@gmail.com> <58907192.0a081c0a.f5bd4.4f0c@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <15A40B1C-DF63-46D1-B19C-265656268DE8@btinternet.com> If they had access to Bridgemates and an authorised person could set up the event on a PC which could be remote from the playing area, then that's a possible option. Sent from my iPad > On 31 Jan 2017, at 11:14, wrote: > > I doubt there is anything like that because I don?t think there ever was in the past. However, I wonder what are the issues they have with scoring by hand, and maybe they could be helped with advice or information? Unless they have large games, which I doubt, scoring by hand ought to be easy enough and provide additional mental stimulation in what must be a very boring routine. > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: brian > Sent: 31 January 2017 11:00 > To: blml at rtflb.org > Subject: [BLML] Looking for some scoring help > > Given how quiet this list has been of late, I hope you'll all forgive > me a borderline off-topic post, but if what I'm trying to research > exists, I'm absolutely sure that someone on this list will know about > it! I think the chances are remote in the extreme, but just about > worth the e-mail. I know nothing about it given that it's almost 20 > years since I last played offline bridge. > > Some background: I'm a mentor for a version of Precision that's been > taught on Bridge Base Online for a number of years now. Recently a few > of us decided to get together and document the system in some > print-on-demand books which are available via Amazon. You can imagine > that we were a bit surprised to get a mentoring request from the > mother of a guy who's currently doing time in low-security Federal > prison! Anyway, I said I'd take him on, and it's his request for > information that I'm passing on. > > The rules in prison are that they are not allowed computers above a > simple calculator, the only thing they have access to is a closed > e-mail system through which they can exchange simple e-mails with the > outside world. At the moment they are scoring the prison duplicates > the old-fashioned way, with pen and paper. > > Is anyone aware of any aid to scoring duplicates which CANNOT (Bureau > of Prisons rules!) be networkable or capable of being programmed in > any other way? I've told them that I think it highly unlikely, that I > expect scoring programs to run on a computer are many and varied, but > they're not allowed that. It has to be *dedicated* hardware, and of > course still commercially available. > > Thanks for any info... but I'm not holding my breath! :( > > > Brian. > _______________________________________________ > Blml mailing list > Blml at rtflb.org > http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml > > _______________________________________________ > Blml mailing list > Blml at rtflb.org > http://lists.rtflb.org/mailman/listinfo/blml -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.rtflb.org/pipermail/blml/attachments/20170131/56e5c9c1/attachment-0001.html